Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 18:22:34 -0500 (GMT-0500) From: "Thomas W. Holt Jr." Subject: A New Hate Campaign (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 13:19:24 -0500 From: David B. O'Donnell To: Multiple recipients of list GLB-NEWS Subject: A New Hate Campaign [ Send all responses to Bob.Sillyheimer@MIXCOM.COM only. Any responses to the list or list-owners will be returned to you. ] Well, a new fundy propaganda tract must be out. This is captured from the FIDO Debate echo. All mistakes were in the original. ================================================================ Date: 11-25-94 (17:17) Number: 49068 From: MIKE RINGGOLD Refer#: NONE To: ALL Recvd: NO Subj: MASS MURDER Conf: (41) Debate --------------------------------------------------------------- MSGID: 1:19/43@fidonet.org 962f2160 MURDER AND MASS MURDER! Although the total number if victims dispatched by a given killer is often in doubt, (e.g., homosexual Henry Lucas claimed that he killed 350), it appears that the modern world record for serial killing is held by a Russian homosexual, Andrei Chikatilo, who was convicted in 1992 of raping, murdering and eating parts of at least 21 boys, 17 women and 14 girls. The pathology of eating one's sexual victims also characterized Milwaukee's Jeffrey Dahmer in 1992. He not only killed 17 young men and boys, but cooked and ate their body parts. The top six U.S. male serail killers were all gay: * Donald Harvey claimed 37 victims in Kentucky; * John Wayne Gacy raped and killed 33 boys in Chicago, burying them under his house and in his yard; * Patrick Kearney accounted for 32, cutting his victims into small pieces after sex and leaving them in trash bags along the Los Angeles freeways; * Bruce Davis molested and killed 27 young men and boys in Illinois; * A gay sex-murder-torture ring (Corll-Henley-Brooks) sent 27 Texas men and boys to their grave (I have talk with two of these in the prison I work at, what they did is to bad to talk about even here); * Juan Corona was convicted of murdering 25 migrant workers (he made love to their corpses). Lesbian Aileen Wuornos laid claim in 1992 to "worst female killer" with at least 7 middle-aged male victims. She singlehandedly topped the lesbian nurse team of Catherine Wood and Gwen Graham, who had killed 6 convalescent patients in Grand Rapids, Michigan. The association between serial murder and homosexuality isn't recent. Two gays compete for the spot of "world's worst murderer." During the Nazi rein of terror, Auschwitz executioner Ludwig Tiene strangled, crushed, and gnawed boys and young men to death while he raped them. Though his grand total is uncertain, he often murdered as many as 100 a day. Gilles de Rais (Bluebeard) brutally destroyed the lives of 800 boys. Each lad was lured to his home, bathed and fed. Just as the poor boy though "this is my lucky day," he was raped, then killed by being ripped or cut apart and either burned or eaten. A study of 518 sexually-tinged mass murders in the US from 1966 to 1983 determined that 350 (68%) of the victims were killed by those who practiced homosexuality and that 19 (44%) of the 43 murderers were bisexuals or homosexuals. Though probably less than a majority of mass murderers are homosexual, given that no more than 3% of the populace is gay, homosexual murderes show up much more frequently than one would expect. Along with serial murder, there appears to be a connection between homosexuality and murder. Evidence from before the gay rights movement is limited. Of 444 homicides in one jurisdiction from 1955-1973, investigators noted 5 clear "sexual motivation" murders. Three of the 5 involved homosexuality and 2 involved heterosexuality. Probing more deeply into the connection between murder and homosexuality, Jim Warren, who worked as a counselor at the Washington State Corrections Center, did the intake interview for almost all the younger murderers (under age 36) in the state of Washington from 1971-1982 (during the growth of the gay rights movement). He was "probably the only one who examined the entirety of each of their case files."Warren testified that he was struck with how frequently homosexuality turned up in the cases. Starting with a trickle of 2 or 3 murders/year in 1972 until dozens/year by the 1980s, he noted a recurrent pattern: Although the motive listed in the report was often robbery or theft, "about 50% of the time" it was also associated with homosexuality. Typically, a homosexual would meet someone at a bar or park and invite him to his home. Before the morning, an argument would ensue and he or his visitor would be dead. (ref. before the Law and Justice Committee of the Washington State Senate (12/15/89) Gebhard P & Johnson A.) Conclusion; The 'hate crimes' gays complain about are infrequent and seldom involve more than name-calling or snide remarks, The FBI reported 431 hate crimes against homosexuals for the US in all of 1991. Only one was "confirmed" for Washington, D.C. - yet D.C. gay activist claimed 397 incidents! When pressed, they admitted that at least 366 of these "crimes" consisted of "verbal harassment." In line with traditional psychiatric opinion, violence goes hand-in-hand with the "gay" lifestyle. Almost all the exposure by homosexuals to violence and disease is encountered in the gay subculture. Most of the murderers in the lifespan study whose sexual orientation could be determined were also homosexual. While violence toward homosexuals is deplorable, most violence involving gays is self-induced (and the gay subculture may export more violence than it absorbs from without). --- ~ SLMR 2.1a ~ Homosexual is just a perverted sex act! --- ~ SLMR 2.1a ~ If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny. --- QScan v1.131b / 01-0390 * Origin: Whiskey River! Ya'll come on down! (1:19/43) =============================================================== Date: 11-25-94 (17:17) Number: 49069 From: MIKE RINGGOLD Refer#: NONE To: ALL Recvd: NO Subj: PSYCHOLOGY OF HOMOSEXUALS Conf: (41) Debate ---------------------------------------------------------------- MSGID: 1:19/43@fidonet.org 64a2b8ce THE PSYCHOLOGY OF HOMOSEXUALITY! Traditional social-psychiatric theory argues that productive people will enjoy life, feel good about themselves, earn the respect of friends and co-workers, and feel connected with their families and society. The non-productive will also have personalities shaped by their character and experience, namely, their "worthless" or counterproductive activities and life choices. They are expected to feel dissatisfied with life and themselves, be stung from social scorn, and seek excessive distraction (through amusements, risk-taking, drugs, sex). The rebellious are expected to have "adjustment problems" because they don't follow society's prescription. They will feel angry at and at odds with their family and society, even while blaming them for their problems. Rebels, such as thieves and gays, will tend to "feel comfortable" only in the company of their own kind. Though they may get satisfactions within their subcultures, their lifestyles preclude full participation in things that "really count" psychologically (e.g.,parenthood, social honor). In reaction, traditional theory holds that rebels will mock those who are productive, even as they envy and resent them. (we see alot of that here Besides gays' preoccupation with sex, traditionalist psychiatrists have catalogued a higher incidence of personality characteristics suggesting psychological disturbance and an inability to interact successfully with others, Dr. Edmond Bergler, who treated over a thousand homosexuals, concluded that gays tend to: * provoke attacks against themselves and then count these "attacks" as injustices they had suffered. * display defensive malice toward others, * exhibit a flippant attitude in order to cover underlying depression and guilt, * display extreme narcissism and superciliousness, * refuse to acknowledge accepted standards in non-sexual matters, on the assumption that the right to cut moral corners is due to homosexuals as compensation for their "suffering" and * be generally unreliable, also of a more or less psychopathic nature. Dr. Irving Bieber, who perfromed on of the largest and most intensive psychiatric studies of homosexuals, characterized gays as "angrt, bitter people with low feeling of responsibilty." And Dr. Charles Socarides has emphasized the similarity of the obsessive-compulsive nature of homosexual sex acts to a drug "fix". As opposed to the traditional view, modern egalitarianism emphasizes the equivalent worth of everyone irrespective of their willingness to be productive (after all, we share a `common humanity'). This ideology sees no `linkage' between economic and sexual productivity and psychological well-being: those who choose to live on welfare are "just as good" and have the same mix of personality characteristics as those who choose to work. The married are sexually and psychiatrically indistinguishable from those "living together." And homosexuals are psychiatrically and socially indistinguishable from heterosexuals. Egalitarian social-psychiatric theory holds that if society would compel its members to accept everyone "for what they choose to do or be," everybody (including homosexuals) would come to feel good about themselves. In this `brotherhood of humankind,' the job of creating adequate matrial wealth and rearing a sufficiency of well-socialized children would flow `naturally' out of the general spirit of cooperation, decency, and acceptance that would prevail. THE PSYCHOLOGICAL QUESTION Are homosexuals troubled today because society unreasonably discriminates against them or are they more frequenly pathological and distresses due to a psychology shaped by their choices and experience? Several lines of evidence suggest that the personality problems of gays are not a consequence of societal rejection, but `part and parcel' of living the homosexual life. Futhermore, discrimination against those with homosexual inclinations, like discrimination against the able-bodied who refuse to work, is both necessary for the greater good of society and the individual himself. In fact, such discrimination is an attempt to prevent persons temted by homosexuality fromsuffering the pathologies it induces. More to come..... References on request only. --- ~ SLMR 2.1a ~ Homosexuality is not family values. --- ~ SLMR 2.1a ~ Unable to locate Coffee -- Operator Halted! --- QScan v1.131b / 01-0390 * Origin: Whiskey River! Ya'll come on down! (1:19/43)